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[Kamau]

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Spoiler: John and Jacquelyn don't have personalities yet because the show focuses on drama, and they haven't been very dramatic (yet). Doesn't someone else step up to try and be in charge now that what's-his-face is gone? 

 

I wish I could see everything as well! It's one of the biggest reasons being a cameraman for the show is a dream job of mine. That and all the other stuff about it, but also so I could see everything~

 

Being an editor for the show must be hard though.

[legacyme3]

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The latest episode, while more about Jon and Jaclyn hasn't really shed light on any personality, I felt.

 

In fact, all it made me think was that they are the type of mushy mushy couple I hated in high school. I get it, I'm sure they love each other, and I'm sure that after being separated for a week or two, they feel the need to make out or whatever. But almost every shot for the rest of the episode was of them kissing.

 

It actually annoyed the crap out of me, and I'm generally accepting of PDA. I'm hoping one of the two gets voted out, just so we can see one of them start playing the game.

 

I was a little sad to see Kelley go, as opposed to Missy. Kelley didn't get much screen time it felt, so we know basically nothing about her. I would have liked to see her character a bit more, whereas Missy is just annoying. 

 

I was absolutely shocked to see the rice situation at Hunahpu, compared to Coyopa. I was under the impression both tribes ate roughly the same amount, a serving each per day, which seems reasonable, especially in an arid climate where you can't explore and get more food from the wild.

 

Next week, we get to see the rice trade. I'm so excited to see what Hunahpu has to give up in order to get the rice, since it seems the penalty is going to be strict.

 

My guess is they are going to have to go without shelter, like at Exile Island, or have to vote out a member to thin their numbers down.

 

I'm really liking this season as a whole.

[Kamau]

Your spoilers make me wonder if I actually watched the episode this week.

 

If I did, I don't think I was paying attention...I'll have to [re]watch.

[Kamau]

Yep. Definitely hadn't seen that episode. But now I'm all caught up!

 

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For starters, I'm so glad Keith didn't get voted out. It sucks that Dale went home while Baylor and her mom are both still there (um, seriously? Getting mad at Dale for being concerned about the amount of rice you're using? Especially when your old tribe had to barter with Jeff to get more food? Not to mention all that "mother hen" crap that I'm already tired of. You're out to get anyone who goes after your kid. I get it. But this is Survivor. It's part of the game. Plus it's true that she went after Dale first.)

 

Dale made a really good move pretending with his fake idol, but he followed it with a pretty stupid one of offering it to John if he survived the night. (a) John would never forgive him if he found out the idol was fake and (b) offering it to him if you don't have to use it means you're likely not going to play it, so he'd feel even safer voting for you. Which he did. 

 

Interested in the fact that the merge is here, even though it means some of the people I dislike stand a chance of sticking around way longer. So now...is Keith the only person with an idol right now?

 

Also, couples need to stop smooching and start focusing on strategy again.

[legacyme3]

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On the topic of idols, even I'm fairly confused. I "think" Keith is the only person with an idol, but I honestly forget if someone on the new Hunahpu has one. Wouldn't surprise me to find out that someone else has one that I'm forgetting about.

 

That last episode was classic. The trade for the rice was predictably harsh. I feel for Josh and the old Coyopa tribe, they played the right way and ultimately get screwed because they get switched onto a tribe that couldn't do shit right in terms of surviving. 

 

I'm excited for the merge (but not happy so many people I dislike are still around). I don't know who I would say is in the best position to win right now. The singles are going to likely be safe the next few tribals, as they are key swing votes to dismantle couples.

 

So I think Keith is in pretty decent position. He's not a fierce competitor, so he's not a threat to anyone in the challenges really. Wes is still there, so he could be a bit of a target, but I think they all target Wes before Keith, and at that point he becomes a swing vote with an idol.

 

I also think Jeremy and Natalie are safe (ugh) for the next few, they have a strong alliance, and they are both without their loved one. Two for the price of one makes them incredibly valuable, so long as Jeremy doesn't get in his own way.

 

I'd say that with those three being the safest, the three in the most danger are easily Josh, Reed, and Jon.

 

In Josh's case, he's evidently the glue that kept everyone together, and he does well in the challenges. They'll probably take out Reed first to weaken him, but should Reed win a challenge, Josh could be the first on the block.

 

In Reed's case, he's a physical beast, and one of the biggest threats to go on a challenge run. He's good at both the puzzles and the challenges that require physical strength. He's probably the biggest physical threat in this game along with Jeremy and Jon, but he has a valuable loved one on his side, and that makes him a huge target.

 

In Jon's case, I think that his style of play is going to catch up to him in a big way. Not only is he one of the biggest challenge threats left, but he's also been trying to play a canniving game, and being part of a loved ones alliance, he's going to need to act fast to get the new Hunahpu on his side in a hurry. They could stay aligned with Baylor and Missy, but I think they'll break it off soon, as both Baylor and Missy are backstabby. Being a big threat, and outside of the major alliance could spell trouble for him.

 

I'm waiting for Keith to make the so called biggest mistake in Survivor history. It hasn't happened quite yet, but I can't shake the feeling it's going to alter the game in a HUGE way.

 

I always love the merge. It's always so interesting, now that everyone is vulnerable.

[Kamau]

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Remind me of the so-called biggest mistake in Survivor history? 

 

As for idols, I'm pretty sure John Rocker had had the idol on the other tribe...and went home with it in his pocket. In Survivor past, that would have meant that the idol went back into play in another position, but from the sound of it (aka the fact that the clues didn't change) it didn't? That and the fact that we've hit the merge with no one new even looking for it. But now that there's a merge I don't doubt a new one will come into play soon.

 

I think Keith, unlike John, may be smart enough to know when to use his idol vs accidentally not, so at the least I don't see him going home next ep. On top of that, I really don't see the tribe targeting Wes over, say, Baylor and Missy or Jon and Natalie. Both Keith and his son would probably be asked to participate in one alliance or another (especially since Keith was the odd one out on his tribe, meaning that he didn't participate in all the backstabbing like everyone else). 

 

I agree that unfortunately, Jeremy is probably safe next ep - especially considering the amount of chaos surrounding Josh and Reed. I see them being targeted as well - there are plenty of people who would like to gun for Josh, I'm sure, and both of those guys are equally strong. It'll probably come down to who wins immunity.

 

And speaking of Jeremy, he quickly got annoying about the food situation. I get that he's pissed about losing everything to "not being able to handle it" but you know he'd be complaining just as well after a few more days of lack of food. And then to complain because food was the next offer? It was one skewer of meat each. Yes that would be good for a night, but certainly not in the long run - never mind that the merge has now happened.

[legacyme3]

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During the season preview at the end of the first episode, someone (sounded like Keith) had a snippet of them saying "I've just made the worst mistake in Survivor history!", and we haven't seen that happen yet, so I can only assume it happens during the merge (I'm thinking he either gives his idol to a backstabber, or talks about the idol in front of people who want to vote him out)

 

And yeah, John Rocker DID have the idol, but as you said, normally that means it goes back into play, I'm confused as to whether or not it did, or if anyone found it when I wasn't looking at the screen (I make popcorn sometimes, and I'm not standing on the screen when that happens).

 

What I find most annoying about Jeremy's outrage is that he was one of the original Hunahpu members. He was one of the players responsible for the mess they were in now. He should have been one of the most humble about it, fessing up to his mistakes, but all he did was push the audience against him, by acting like it wasn't his fault they needed to trade for more food.

 

The ones who should be mad, like Josh, who came from Coyopa, handled it infinitely better.

[Kamau]

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I'm pretty positive no one found it while you weren't looking. Hence my confusion as well... As for the biggest mistake, hmm, that's a tough one. Maybe he left it behind at the old camp! Haha. 

 

I agree 110% about Jeremy. I couldn't remember if he was an original so I didn't mention it, but I actually typed that out and then erased it just in case it was wrong. It amazes me how none of the original tribe understood that they'd run out of food if they kept that up, and that two handfuls was 'a little worrisome'. It's like they thought they'd just be given more rice when they ran out or something.

[legacyme3]

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Out of curiosity, I went back and looked at the original tribes, to see which people who are still in the game are on Hunahpu

 

First, people who were on Hunahpu, and still are: Jeremy, Julie, Natalie, Reed.

Now, people who were on Hunahpu, and are now on Coyopa: Jon, Keith, Missy

Next, people who were on Coyopa, and are now on Hunahpu: Alec, Josh, Wes

Finally, people who were on Coyopa, and still are: Baylor, Jaclyn (Dale was as well, but got voted out last episode).

 

The merge will make it kind of irrelevant, because they'll all be together (12 left, Final Three, plus 9 jury, unless someone quits, which I could totally see, based on the Survivor Preview) but Jeremy and Natalie need to quiet down, and start playing like Reed and Julie if they want a long term chance. In that vein, I can't wait to see how Alec, Josh, and Wes interact with Jon, Keith, and Missy, since they haven't spoken or seen each other outside of challenges (Wes hooking back up with Keith is expected for obvious reasons). Same with Jeremy, Julie, Natalie, and Reed with Baylor and Jaclyn.

[legacyme3]

Below are spoilers for the 11/5 episode of Survivor.

 

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That episode fucking sucked. I hate when people quit, and I hate when there's no tribal council. Half the fun of the show is seeing who gets voted out or blindsided. And it sucks, since it looked like Jeremy was about to be on the chopping block.

 

Sure, this hurts his alliance, as now he has one less single, but wrong person starting with the letter J went home.

 

The merge was cool, but the color is too close to what Hunahpu had. I don't like that.

 

Immunity Challenge was a bit of a snooze to watch too. All around terrible episode.

 

This also kind of negates Keith winning immunity. I can't imagine they'll let him keep it another episode right? Is there any precedent? 

 

I'm disappointed. I don't even have anything to say about things said at camp.

[Kamau]

Okay, I can look at that post now.

 

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I agree, it really sucks when people quit. I mean, yeah, I'm not out there so I don't know how I'd fare, but...to quit because you miss your loved one? To quit because you feel like you'll be going home anyway? Ugh. You do realize that in any other season that's not Blood vs Water, you'd be without your loved one anyway?

 

I go without seeing my family for months. It's been this way for years - from going away to school, to moving to another state. Yeah, you miss them, but you just count down till next time you can see them. In her case, it was 21 more days - likely less, considering, as she said, 'she was probably going home anyway'. 

 

I also agree that it feels like Keith's been jipped of his win, but at least he wasn't on the chopping block anyway? From the look of it at least. It does suck majorly though - a lot can happen in three days. Jeremy might have gone home today, but he just as easily might win the next immunity challenge. As Missy said - all it takes is one slip-up.

 

The immunity challenge was what I kind of have come to expect from individual challenges - it feels like they're practically all endurance challenges when there's this many people. I can't wait till we get down in numbers, then everything will get exciting again.

 

Concerning the next episode:

Ughhh if it's just Alec, are people really taking him seriously? Alec is a jackass, just like his brother. Don't let him get to you.

[legacyme3]

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Well, I don't mind endurance challenges, those can be fun to watch, when edited down properly.

 

The problem was the random variance in this challenge. You have to balance a ball on a platform, which, while fair and rational, gets stupid the moment you add a second ball. A bit boring with one, sure, but it's rational thought.

 

In theory, a second ball should make it more interesting to the audience, but almost no one has the dexterity and fortitude to balance two separate entities on a riggedy platform in a windy environment. It should have been obvious from the moment they thought of this challenge that once they got to two, it wouldn't be a battle of endurance anymore. It would be a battle of who the wind favored more that day.

 

Looking at the area they were playing in, that wind will gust wicked strong and is enough to move a ball on its own WITHOUT any touch from the contestant. All it takes is the wind deciding to come in from the northeast as opposed to the north, and your strategy is screwed. Unless you can literally predict the wind's motions, there is no way for you to know you can do well at that challenge.

 

So maybe not "boring" is the word I'm looking for, so much as stupid. It wasn't based on strength or skill, but on what the wind decided to do and who to mess with.

 

I REALLY hate when people quit. I was in the boy scouts when I was younger, so while I've never gone into a ridiculously harsh environment like Nicaragua, I do have a sense of what it takes to survive in the wilderness, as well as a sense of missing family while out at camp. 

 

I stopped crying over being separated from family when I was about 12. 12. At age 22, I couldn't see myself crying in that situation unless I learned a family member was deathly ill somehow, then I'd make my priority seeing them again.

 

But John Rocker wasn't desperately ill. He was voted out. Julie was just being a clingy, needy, cry baby, and those are the types of people I absolutely hate to see play this game. I dislike Jeremy and Natalie or whatever. Sure. But they aren't quitting.

 

As one of the great and mighty douche brothers of this season said... "We signed up for this shit, it's Survivor."

 

If you aren't prepared to play, don't fucking play. It jerks the audience around, and is one of the main causes of apathy among the casual fans of the show that have since moved on to other things.

 

I'm surprised Jeff shows so much sympathy towards quitters these days. Early on, I know he was absolutely FURIOUS whenever someone quit. Now, he's much more quiet about how he feels about it. 

 

It also makes me wonder how much one on one time Jeff gets with the players on the island.

[Kamau]

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Jeff was furious last time when what's-his-face quit, I remember that much. I got the sense that he was trying his best to get her to stay ("kids go to summer camp. We let them go.") but I also feel like he's got no time for people who don't actually want to play. That's probably why he canceled tribal, since I can remember every other time people quit that the entire game just moved along without them.

 

The deathly ill card can't even be played here. One of the guys - I can't remember if it's Survivor or The Amazing Race, but the same thing applies either way - has a father who is deathly ill, and he is still playing his hardest. If anything, he's using that reason to play even harder - she should have been showing John Rocker that she could go all the way, even without him. Instead, she's proving that she's clingy and basically useless without him there. He's been facing adversity every day for years, I'll bet. She faces it for, what, 11 days on her own, and gives up?

 

Also, yeah, I get what you mean about the challenge. But I guess the plus is at least that Keith won - even though that might very well place a target on his back at some point.

[legacyme3]

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Yeah, Rocker has been facing adversity for a good 15 or so years. He's only 40 years old, but people seem to think he's older than that because of how often his name had been in the news for a while. He made waves at a young age (and again at an older age) for how outspoken he is on controversial things.

 

However, those opinions aside, he seems like a genuinely cool dude, and I don't think he played to "win" so much as to have a fun experience, and to meet people from other walks of life in a different setting. I could legitimately believe that Rocker joined just so he could meet people without them going "Oh John Rocker what an amazing player!" or "John Rocker, what an unbelievable douche!"

 

He faced more adversity in the first 3 days than Julie has in the entire time she's been on the island. When the season started, I had an assumption of who everyone was (That Alec and Drew were Cali/Florida douchebags (which they are), that Wes and Keith were going to be rather rednecky, etc. My assumption of Julie at the very start was that she was a bitch who was with John Rocker just for the money, and not mentally tough enough to go without him for more than 6 days.

 

As it turns out, she lasted slightly longer than 6 days, but everything else seems plausible. She doesn't seem like a good person, or a smart person, or have any particularly redeeming qualities. I honestly wouldn't even call her "hot" (she looks so fake). She's not the type of person I'd be interested in getting to know.

 

I don't know what her positive qualities are because she never showed any of them. All she has proven is she's a clinger, who can't handle the slightest bit of adversity. She's a baby, rather lazy (she never seemed to do much of anything), and extremely self centered. She has this stupidly grandiose self opinion, and all around, just seems like a bad person.

 

I dislike a lot of people from this season (most are gone already) but I can't say I truly loathe them as much as I loathe Julie.

[legacyme3]

Spoilers for 11/12/14 Survivor.

 

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Dammit, now I hate Julie even more. If she doesn't quit last week, Jeremy is probably voted out. And because Jeremy wasn't voted out, he's still here to lead the charge against Josh.

 

And then he goes and wins immunity.

 

And then Josh (predictably) gets voted out.

 

On that note... Baylor has to have the record for most votes against her in the show's history, or is at least on her way to it. She has had like 15 or so votes against her already. And if she gets voted out, it's going to require another 5 or 6 probably.

 

I don't have much to say about the episode, it was a pretty weak one, altogether, the reward challenge wasn't interesting (puzzles are supposed to be hard) and the Immunity Challenge was one of those annoying memorization ones. Their memory MUST be affected after 20 days on the island, because that was incredibly easy to remember. And someone (Jon I think?) even failed out after the first one.

 

There wasn't much talk, and what little there was, I found a hard time understanding. Jaclyn seems to be offended easily. This is one of the episodes where I'd like more behind the scenes content, because she called all the guys chauvinists... 

 

However, I have to disagree. Alec is just a douchebag (so there's at least a case for him), but Reed, Josh, Wes, and Keith? I have a hard time seeing any of them as chauvinistic... and if her main goal was to get rid of one of the chauvinists then she should have Jeremy in her sights, because he's the biggest one on the island.

 

Maybe I just don't understand. I don't see Keith telling Baylor she had to pull her own weight as a trigger for Keith being one of the chauvinists. He's abrasive at times sure, but he has a point. If you do nothing at camp (which is what it appears Baylor is doing) then you should be called out for it.

 

Every episode that goes by I get more and more annoyed by Jeremy and Missy. Ugh. 

 

Anyway, next episode looks cool. A massive swerve for Reed incoming could REALLY mess up alliances and force a reshuffle.

[Kamau]

Some main thoughts on the 11/12 episode of Survivor:

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Jacquelyn is totally right that no one came to talk to her until Jon came back. But I think it's more Alec than anyone else that's being a douche - I mean, Keith wanted to go discuss strategy with her, but Alec was all "why bother? She'll vote with Jon." That's dangerous thinking. 

 

I think Josh made an effort to talk to Baylor, but it wasn't the right kind of effort. She's right that it was like blackmailing, and it's sad that since she didn't side with him, he immediately decided she should go. Under that logic, shouldn't they be gunning for her mom - the one supposedly "controlling" her?

 

It's pretty cool that Jon got himself an idol.

 

Ughhhhhh. Of course Jeremy won immunity. I am 1000% not surprised. 

 

It's ridiculous that people are upset that others are, what did they say? Farting and burping around the girls? I might find loud belching gross, but there's no reason you should contain yourself around me just because I'm a girl. Contain yourself because it's gross, sure, but everyone does it - I'm not going to be upset if you do it once in a while. And the spitting part? I find that grosser, but again, not because I'm a girl. Yes, Alec's a douchebag, and he sure is inconsiderate, but for a dozen reasons other than him spitting or farting around women.

 

Sad that Josh got voted out over Baylor mostly because I really don't like Baylor, but hopefully people can work together to get Jeremy out next time? I guess it'll depend on who wins immunity next time. 

 

And oh come on. Have I mentioned that I hate when people go through others' bags?! Ugh.

 

Now, looking at your comments, I agree that Keith shouldn't be considered chauvenistic for wanting Baylor to help him out around camp. Though I guess he could have asked a general call for help, rather than signaling her out. But that could be a case of dramatic editing.

 

Now thoughts on the 11/19 episode:

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That's actually pretty smart, trading positions in the reward challenge. I mean, it's totally strategy, but this isn't the first time Natalie's done this, and it's worked out for her so far. Kind of sucks that they're repaying the favor by sending Jeremy (I'm a little surprised, but not a ton, considering they want to make sure any idol stays with their alliance).

 

I'm just glad Jon's already got it. No idol for you, Jeremy.

 

I wonder how Jeremy started that fire on exile. 

 

That's an entertaining twist for the immunity challenge! I'm pretty good at using my feet; I think I'd have fun with this one. (Good thing you can use your hands to pick up what drops.)

 

Unrelated, I'm gonna shoot a wild guess out there and say that Keith doesn't win this challenge. 'cause if he did, I'm sure there wouldn't be half as much chaos in the preview about him. I'm also gonna guess that Reed doesn't win. (Look, I was right!) 

 

Here we go...going through the bag. I'll say it one more time - ugh. Though I guess, why didn't Keith burn it? (He was really good at hiding it...but I'm still really mad that Reed went through the bag.)

 

Ya know, it didn't seem like exile beat up Jon as much as Jeremy's whining about...

 

..Wait. Keith, you're not playing your idol? Seriously? I hope you at least handed it to Wes before tribal........Wait.

 

How on earth did I miss this blindside? I mean, yeah, I saw Jon and Missy talking about it, but when did they have time to gather enough people to take him out? I'm super glad and all, but still. It's not often I'm completely blindsided.

[legacyme3]

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I remember saying during the switch for the reward, "This is a brilliant move, but this is Survivor, who knows what this will change."

 

My grandmother said "That was fucking stupid."

 

It was a really dumb move to send Jeremy to exile I think, unless you have the express purpose of voting him out anyways, and I'm not sure Jon made the decision or if he did, that he was thinking that far ahead. A lot can be made of Jon and Jaclyn's play, but I really don't think they are that intelligent. It seems things fall into their lap, but aren't really a product of things they do.

 

I also wonder, but I mean, if Dale could start a fire using only his glasses, then I mean, who knows. We never will.

 

I saw the challenge preview on youtube before the episode, and that's what hyped me up so much for this episode. I love unique ideas, and I love the idea of a challenge that tests your core muscles after 20 days of struggling. I'm in pretty decent shape, and I'm good with my feet, but I think I'd struggle pretty badly with this challenge, especially toward the end. I might be overrating the difficulty, but when I think about all the core exercises I did over the years in cross country, I think about how excruciating it was.

 

I also totally called the winner of this one. As the challenge was starting, my grandmother said "It's going to be Reed." and I corrected her, saying "Nope, this one is all Baylor's." She thought I was insane.

 

Then Baylor won, and I could only shoot her the trolliest of troll faces. I don't know why I thought Baylor would win. Just figured she'd have the best control and balance, especially when you consider how she fared in the reward challenge. I think Baylor is a solidly underrated player. If not for Missy being on the island, I think most people would actually fall in love with Baylor. Missy is just fucking annoying.

 

I also hate when people go through other's bags. I totally thought it was against the rules, and not only to go through the bag, but actually outright TAKE things? That's awful. Why on earth is this allowed? I mean it opened the door for Reed to leave seeds of doubt everywhere. And I like Reed. But come on.

 

I've been saying this the entire time, but I think Jeremey is all bark and no bite. For a guy who is both a firefighter and a former athlete (I believe I heard that?) he's really not all that strong or athletic. Don't get me wrong, I think he'd beat me in a lot of things. But he is so whiney, and weak compared to what I thought he would be when I first saw him. Proof looks aren't everything.

 

Exile beat him to shit because he can't handle it. I fully believe that if it wasn't for his tribe mates, he'd be fucking dying out here. Two days on Exile turned him from Jeremy into the walking dead.

 

I am massively impressed with the stones on Keith. Massively. I don't know if he's thinking at all or what, but to not use your idol after it was flushed out? I get the feeling he doesn't quite know what he's doing, but boy is it working out for him. I honestly think Wes might go before Keith anyways.

 

The blindside this week was really that. A blindside. I thought in the back of my mind, "It'd be nice to get rid of Jeremy, but I only expect 2 or 3 votes against him, and for the majority of the votes to go Reed's way."

 

Then the vote happens, and it's neck and neck between Keith and Reed. Another vote Reed. "Well, that was fun..."

 

Then all of a sudden a torrent of votes for Jeremy.

 

And the look on both me and my grandmother's face rivaled that of only Josh on the jury.

 

That's a "big" move, and could be the one that gives Jon, Jaclyn, Reed, Baylor, or Missy a million dollars. Getting rid of a big threat like Jeremy THIS early is crazy. I know exile kicked the crap out of him, but he was still a strong social player, and as Cagayan proved in the previous season, you don't need to win a challenge to win a million dollars.

 

And to lose Josh AND Jeremy in back to back weeks? That's insane.

 

I'm really excited about next week. Jon and Jaclyn should know who else voted Jeremy (Reed, Missy, Baylor), and could cement a new strong alliance. Alec, Keith, Wes, and Natalie are in the air though and could split the alliance before it even begins.

 

I think Natalie is going to be a big player next week, her entire alliance crumbled. She's lost her go to guy (Jeremy) as well as her alliance mates (Jon, Jaclyn, Missy, Baylor). She is in the same position Reed was last week, and now has to make a move to stay in the game. I'd like to see her pull Alec, Keith, and Wes aside, and try to align with Reed to give them the numbers.

 

Also, is it just me, or did Alec say basically nothing this episode? I almost forgot he was there.

[Kamau]

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Concerning the blindside, I'm pretty confident that they planned the votes to be read that way. They wanted the audience as blindsided'd as possible - and man, it worked.

 

I can see why you'd think Baylor would win immunity this time. She's small enough to have good balance and dexterity - much more so, at least, than many of the guys. 

 

I don't think Keith realizes that his idol's been flushed. I mean, by tribal I'm sure he was concerned about it, but someone was even like "Wes or Keith, probably." I don't remember who he voted for this ep. If it was Jeremy, I think he was in the loop, so he might have felt better about hiding it. Jon's gonna deal with so much crap about his next week though...Good luck, dude. 

 

I'm glad Alec didn't have much to say. I wish he'd just go home. And yeah, Natalie's gonna have to scramble.

 

I liked Reed enough, until he pulled the bag crap.

[legacyme3]

Spoiler

As for votes, I managed to remember who voted who.

 

Reed - Alec, Keith, Wes

Jeremy - Jon, Jaclyn, Baylor, Missy, Reed

Keith - Jeremy, Natalie

 

Baylor, Missy, Jon, and Jaclyn all voted for Josh, too.

[legacyme3]

11/26/14 Survivor

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First off... noooo Wes!!!! :(

 

This was a weird episode, really kind of happy to see Missy be given the reward by Reed. I mean, it probably meant more to her than it did to him, and he got what he was more or less after.... or did he?

 

I was honestly sort of looking forward to this season's ambassador challenge, as Cagayan made it look interesting, thanks to Woo's theatrics. But outside of Jon, I didn't really see much worth remembering this time... and honestly, what little I did see of Jon was too much. Sure he gave a kid ice cream, but then he hit a ball (that almost hit him in the head) and beat out a play at first. You are supposed to let the kids get you out dude. Come on.

 

The immunity challenge was one of the few this season that actually looked difficult. I like endurance challenges, because it really is about who wants it more at this point. I hate Jon dropping out like 5 minutes in for sweets, and stop with the orgasm on the sidelines. I'm pissed off and I'm not even there to be mad at you. Don't be a dick to everyone else.

 

Oh my god, what is with everyone being dicks, Jon, and now Missy? Come on, this is hard enough without you assholes being assholes.

 

Wes wanted that meat.

 

Oh my god NATALIE IS BARGAINING WITH JEFF. THIS CAN ONLY END BADLY.

 

Except he doesn't. He's in a strangely giving mood for someone who earlier in the game took all a tribe's comfort items for a bag of rice. Considering half the tribe wasn't on the tribe and were suffering.

 

Weird. But Reed wins immunity! Hooray! AND HOLY SHIT HE DID A SPLIT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HIM!?

 

That's just painful to look at.

 

Back at camp, and it's looking like it's fairly tame... but we've still got twenty minutes of show... looks like Tribal is going to be crazy.

 

And crazy it was. There were enough votes for Jon, but Natalie was able to convince him to play his idol, which is a massive win for her. Keeps her in the majority, keeps Jon on the island (which was her goal from the beginning of the episode), AND eliminates the idol, so Jaclyn can't use it later and throw a wrench into her plans. It's a great move, but one I'm angry about. I really wanted Jon to go home. He's been skating by on luck and great circumstances. He passes it off as playing a great game, but it doesn't feel like he's playing one.

 

Anyway, one idol's gone so the natural thing to do is to keep your own idol pocketed and saved for the stronger player between the two of you, so naturally, Keith uses his idol on himself instead of slipping it to Wes, and telling him to play hard.

 

So now both Jon AND Keith are safe, and wouldn't you know it, those were the two with the most votes.

 

Now, this puts my favorite moron in a bad position.

 

Yep. Wes is gone. 2 votes is all it took.

 

Goddamn it.

 

I miss him already. Even though he was a dumbass who talked about two and a half men during an immunity challenge.

 

Next week is apparently a two hour episode? It's not the premier or finale, so this confuses me, is this at all precedented?