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[Donkeymog]

Yeah, thinking of it now the flash forwards didn't really work for me in season 2.

In the first season didn't they often flash forward to the climactic scene? Like in the first episode? Been a while since I watched through this.

But at least we know how it's going to end now.

[Donkeymog]

In my current pack of cigarettes there is one cigarette the wrong way up. I'm not sure I should smoke it...

[Monkeydog]

I have a theory. So spoilers.



So we have 14 episodes left. 6 of this half season, or season, or whatever. And we are just now introduced to Lydia. Who the hell is she? I don't know but she sure is a psycho bitch.
But it's interesting, isn't it? She has a supply of methylamine when apparently there is nooooowhere around ABQ that Jesse/Saul can get it. You know who would have methylamine and is relatively close? Gray Matter. There is no way in hell this show is going down without bringing that up again. Gretchen, Elliott, and Walt's back-story is probably the most interesting part of the show, besides maybe the future and Gus' back-story. But we will get to the future, and Gus is dead so it doesn't really need to be told, as much as I'd like it to be. The whole Gray Matter stuff is just something that Vince Gilligan must have had been thinking about for the end game. There is no way in hell would that be brought up just to be dropped way back in season 2. And now, now that he can tie up the show as perfectly as he can possibly can, it will come into play. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I really really think it's going to be a big deal coming up, and it will be Lydia that brings us to it.
Lydia is clearly a back stabbing bitch. Elliott and Gretchen may be too, based on what Walt has made it out to be, or maybe he's just an unreliable character which would make sense. I know this is going to sound crazy, and it's just my thoughts, but I think in the flash forward in episode 1 of this season it's Walt out to kill something dealing with Gray Matter. I originally thought, and I have thought it for a long time, that the show would end up with Walt and Jesse having to fight each other. But that has already kind of happened in Season 4. And I think, even if Jesse kills Skyler for whatever reason, Walter wouldn't come back for him. But Gray Matter is just a matter that Walt clearly has never let go, and it would be the ultimate failure of him being king, and then Elliott and Gretchen taking it away from him again.
Although I really don't think that will happen, I think it would be an interesting way to take it. Buuuuuut I really do think, at least, Lydia and Gray Matter are connected.

Also what the fuck did Walt just rape Skyler? Jesus.

[Monkeydog]

The cinematography in this show is so beautiful.

Does anyone else think that them going to a box factory is a reference to The Simpsons?

How often do you hear about box factories?

[Vicious Parker]

That box factory thing didn't seem like a simpsons reference to me. Though I probably just never watched that episode.

Also, I'm fairly certain that Walter is becoming the scariest mother fucking villain on TV. Yes, villain.

[Monkeydog]

But how many possible box factories have you ever heard of?




The only other time I've heard of one.

I concur. I read something about how probably the darkest scene in that whole episode is when he sees that Walt Whitman book and just kind of laughs about it, feeling absolutely no remorse for Gale. That is dark.

Also the irony that now the cook in places infested with bugs, when a few seasons ago one fly was a huge problem.

[Vicious Parker]

do you think that watching Scar face was a bit of foreshadowing?

[Donkeymog]

I've only see the first episode of this season. They're up to like three or four now, right? How's it shaping up?

I want to see Hal smoke more pot. "Get up, stand up! Stand up for your right!"

[Monkeydog]

/>do you think that watching Scar face was a bit of foreshadowing?

Or at least a representation of who Walt thinks he is.

[toysintheattic]

do you think that watching Scar face was a bit of foreshadowing?

"Everyone dies in this movie, don't they?"

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SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

[Vicious Parker]

/>Or at least a representation of who Walt thinks he is.

God that look on Skylar's face was just horrific.

[Monkeydog]

This show is so dark and depressing.

I loved this episode. It reminded me a lot of "Fly".

I never in a million years thought I would feel so bad for Skyler.

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I feel like Walt is going to kill Skyler with that ricin cigarette. But this is Breaking Bad, who knows what will actually happen. I do feel like Skyler's constant chain smoking in the house is a tactic to get Walt to die quicker.

It's sickening that Walt caries and shows off that watch Jesse gave him as some kind of trophy that he is great and won. He has no sympathy for anyone anymore. It is sick and dark and disgusting and as much as I love this show I think it's finally becoming a bit too much for me to take in. It is getting incredibly hard to watch.

[Vicious Parker]

I agree 100% with your last statement.

[Monkeydog]

But it's not enough to stop watching it. I think if I took in this whole season at once it might do me in, but week by week like this is fine, especially since I know the end is near and it will be oh so sweet.

But any likability Walt has had is now gone. And I think partly why this episode was so hard to watch was that it was basically just Walt the entire episode. Very little Jesse or Mike.
I doubt it, but I wonder if this episode is meant to show us that Walt is the bad guy this season, and kind of explain to us, without explicitly explaining to us, why we'll get more episodes like two weeks ago that were all about Mike.

https://twitter.com/#!/search/skyler%20die

Also, what the fuck is wrong with people? Do they completely miss the point of the show? This is what is wrong with the world.
(And I know the irony, because for four seasons I wanted her to die too. But not this way. She doesn't deserve it like this)

[Vicious Parker]

They did completely miss the point. this might be the first time in the series when Skylar is 100% right...

[Monkeydog]

That was a pretty fun episode.

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And then not-Matt Damon murderer from Friday Night Lights killed a kid. Jesus christ.

[Vicious Parker]

Major credit to this series for finding ways to stay fairly unpredictable. I saw your facebook post about Not-Matt Damon, but avoided this topic to avoid spoilers. I have to say, that was not what I was expecting.

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I somehow suspect this will be the beginning of the end for Jesse. I don't know how he will end his story on the show, but I don't see him recovering easily from this.

[Monkeydog]

/>Major credit to this series for finding ways to stay fairly unpredictable. I saw your facebook post about Not-Matt Damon, but avoided this topic to avoid spoilers. I have to say, that was not what I was expecting.

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I somehow suspect this will be the beginning of the end for Jesse. I don't know how he will end his story on the show, but I don't see him recovering easily from this.

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I think one of the best parts of the whole episode is how easily I forgot about that kid in the cold open. It's so unexpected but it's not like the show didn't tease us about it.

I'm also afraid for Jesse, especially since they posted this today:
http://www.amctv.com...ad-dead-freight

It is super disappointing that he came up with this plan so no one dies and yet a kid, Jesse's biggest taboo, dies.
Buuuuuuut the show is very unpredictable. Especially since I'm sure these last few episodes will be the most polished in the entire series (and it feels that way so far this season). And the video brings up the point that Jesse has been the man with the plans so far this season. So who knows what will happen with him, I just really hope he doesn't "break bad" and is actually somehow redeemed despite all of the shit he has done. He is basically the only likable character, aside from maybe Hank, that is in a risky position.

[Donkeymog]

Hal needs to smoke more pot.

Skyler is an awful character. Maybe I don't get it but you don't mess with the Heisenberg.

[Monkeydog]

This episode had me all tense the entire episode. I've felt that way all season, it's totally not a relaxing experience.

Even the scene with Jesse at dinner. Which was absolutely one of the funniest things I've seen.

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It irritates the hell out of me that Walt doesn't take the buyout. I understand his reasoning, and I think the Gray Matter story actually brings back some likability to his character because now we understand a little better why he does what he does and not just because he's a crazy person.
But as much as a I fucking LOATHE Walt, I want to see him just succeed, and he just won't let himself do that.

I had more to say, I think, but I'm really tired and everything I'm writing right now probably makes very little sense anyways.

Also I saw this comment on AV Club and thought it hilarious:

‎"I like that Jesse remembered exactly how much money Walt wanted to raise originally. I like to imagine that he's been keeping a scrapbook of his time with Walt. Maybe there's a drawing of a thermometer, all colored red because they reached their goal. A picture of the guys cooking with a caption that says "Two knuckleheads, just mething around!""