252 replies to this topic

[kspr]

balance is something completely impossible to measure unless somehow you put tracking devices on EVERYTHING that exists, including said tracking devices, and that would just be impossible.

[rosedragon]

No need to tracking or really count balance into details. Just see everything and open-minded to them I think. :D

[Vicious Parker]

http://richarddawkin...rticle,2291,n,n

take 7 minutes of your life to watch this. seriously.

[Stars]

My bro' has lectures taken by Dawkins!

Awesome, isn't he??

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[Donkeymog]

I haven't read this thread.

But I was thinking earlier today about how incompatible most religions (I was specifically thinking of islam) are with humanism. It goes a long way of explaining my distaste for them, and helps me understand a bit better where they're coming from.

It was my "brainy" thought of the day.

[Anthony Totinos]

http://richarddawkin...rticle,2291,n,n

take 7 minutes of your life to watch this. seriously.

It is interesting, but I don't think it can be said that it disproves religion. It may contradict religious books, but religious are not necessarily the manifestation of God. They are said to be the word of God, but people still have to record it and people can be wrong. Who is to say that God didn't just create the universe and that's that. Maybe he just took a break for a few billion years and watched things unfolded

[Stars]

If there is a God I'd like to think of him as a regular person, like you or me. According to the Bible, see, man is the spitting image of God. And God is perfect. But if man is flawed, than it could be that God is the most flawed person of all.

God also has anger management issues.

[Anthony Totinos]

If there is a God I'd like to think of him as a regular person, like you or me. According to the Bible, see, man is the spitting image of God. And God is perfect. But if man is flawed, than it could be that God is the most flawed person of all.

God also has anger management issues.

But if God is perfection, the flaws are not flaws, just things we don't see the bright side of.

[Monkeydog]

Who says there needs to be a start to existence anyways?

[Anthony Totinos]

Who says there needs to be a start to existence anyways?

There doesn't have to be, but by the same accord, why not?
Also religion can be comforting even if it is real or not. And if it turns out to be false and there is no God, who cares? Are you going to be thinking in your lack of existence all the fun you could have had. Regret wouldn't exist because you wouldn't

[Vicious Parker]

http://richarddawkin...rticle,2291,n,n

take 7 minutes of your life to watch this. seriously.

It is interesting, but I don't think it can be said that it disproves religion. It may contradict religious books, but religious are not necessarily the manifestation of God. They are said to be the word of God, but people still have to record it and people can be wrong. Who is to say that God didn't just create the universe and that's that. Maybe he just took a break for a few billion years and watched things unfolded

I don't believe I said that video disproved religion. Or anything at all for that matter. I don't quite get how you picked up all that stuff, but go you.

[Anthony Totinos]

http://richarddawkin...rticle,2291,n,n

take 7 minutes of your life to watch this. seriously.

It is interesting, but I don't think it can be said that it disproves religion. It may contradict religious books, but religious are not necessarily the manifestation of God. They are said to be the word of God, but people still have to record it and people can be wrong. Who is to say that God didn't just create the universe and that's that. Maybe he just took a break for a few billion years and watched things unfolded

I don't believe I said that video disproved religion. Or anything at all for that matter. I don't quite get how you picked up all that stuff, but go you.

Well seeing as how this is a discussion on religion or the lack thereof, I kinda of assumed that if you posted something in this thread that seems to be counter-religious, you are kinda trying to prove a point

[Vicious Parker]

I was using that video as an argument for proof of evolution.

I wouldn't use evolution as an anti-religion argument, because that's just silly.

[Anthony Totinos]

I was using that video as an argument for proof of evolution.

I wouldn't use evolution as an anti-religion argument, because that's just silly.

Well then, I am in agreement with your post. I believe that was my bad

[Stars]

i'm am doing an speech on school prayers tomorrow

advice

[Anthony Totinos]

i'm am doing an speech on school prayers tomorrow

advice

For or against?

[the_chemist]

There's a passages within the bible I once read that states that if a man is to rape a woman, he should be punished for it with death, it also goes on to state that the woman shouldn't be punished for it as well (since, of course, during the time if a woman, or anyone else, did have sex before marriage, they would be killed for commiting a sin, but this pointed out that if she was raped, she had no choice in the matter and that it was of no fault of her own).

(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.


(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.





And just like I said, every religion preaches their way is the best. How odd is that when their is supposed to be one god?

most of the old testament isn't adhered to anymore. that's part of the reason that there is a conflict over whether or not god cares if someone is gay, because the bible verses related to that are in the old testament. i do think that there is a considerable amount of sexism in the bible, mostly in the old testament so people just disregard it. all christian churches have acknowledged in varying degrees that times have changed; there are verses condoning slavery as well that are not accepted today.

[halfjack]

Who says there needs to be a start to existence anyways?

There doesn't have to be, but by the same accord, why not?
Also religion can be comforting even if it is real or not. And if it turns out to be false and there is no God, who cares? Are you going to be thinking in your lack of existence all the fun you could have had. Regret wouldn't exist because you wouldn't

Thats an extremely depressing statement. Either you wholeheartedly believe that there is a God that will take care of you when you die, or you don't. If you don't, you don't have to waste your time with church and prayer and whatnot. And if you do, you have that extra backing that helps you make it through the tough times.

[kspr]

Who says there needs to be a start to existence anyways?

because anything that has a beginning naturally has an end. existence as we know it begins and ends with our lives.

something else ive been thinking about lately: the universe is freakin huge. like huger than huge. and there have to be tons of planets out there just like ours. if theyre just like us, they probably have all kinds of religions and ideologies like us. so what makes us special? what makes us think we know anything at all? just because somebody thousands of years ago claims to have been inspired by god? if we were to go back in time to then, we could probably explain it with science. it would probably be akin to christopher columbus seeing a nuclear submarine.

Who says there needs to be a start to existence anyways?

There doesn't have to be, but by the same accord, why not?
Also religion can be comforting even if it is real or not. And if it turns out to be false and there is no God, who cares? Are you going to be thinking in your lack of existence all the fun you could have had. Regret wouldn't exist because you wouldn't

Thats an extremely depressing statement. Either you wholeheartedly believe that there is a God that will take care of you when you die, or you don't. If you don't, you don't have to waste your time with church and prayer and whatnot. And if you do, you have that extra backing that helps you make it through the tough times.

if there is a god that will take care of you after you die, then why bother with the prayer and church and whatnot? if god takes care of you regardless, then why bother at all? why would there even be a need for religion if god will take care of you unconditionally. it seems the bible wants us to believe that, but at the same time it wants you to pray and do all kinds of stuff thats really contradictory-whole other bag of bricks-

thats kinda how i feel. if there is a god, whether its the one ive been lead to believe exists or not, i have some general faith that i wouldnt be created to be a god worshipping robot, that theres something for me to do, and i dont nned to do anything but that one thing. its like the premise behind the space monkies in fight club, there is one thing that i will do perfectly that will set off a chain reaction of other things.

[Hyperlisk]

Interesting conversation I missed... It should be moved to Serious Discussion.

EDIT: If we have that anymore?