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[Stars]

There's something about you, 22, that I can't seem to stand. Is it...arrogance? This is probably why nobody likes you. Do you actually have any real friends? If so, bring 'em here. I want to see what they think of you, or if they still actually are your friends.

Is my taunt to ridiculous for you to actually do something about it? Perhaps I am infected with the spirit of the devil, which is why you won't summon your friends here. A much more likely case is that you don't have any real friends. When you realize this, you might realize some other things. Like why you suck.

[Resonator]

Ok, so explain to me how and why god does not and cannot exist. I would like to hear your reasoning for it.

[Stars]

Well, first of all, your question does not address anything that I have said. Second of all, I have made no claims whatsoever regarding the existence/non-existence of God. Here we have a classic blunder done by a classic fool: instead of answering my questions, instead of replying to valid arguments, you decide to change the subject drastically, further making several assumptions about me that are simply untrue.

Now, in regards to your question, I am an agnostic. I feel it is impossible to know if a god or gods exist or not. There is no evidence supporting s/he or they do, but on the other hand, many argue there is no evidence supporting that s/he or they do not exist. Either way, it's impossible to know for sure, since religion is based on the ideas of faith and belief. Blind faith, mind you. Blind. Yes, that's right; you're bound to make a rebuttal about how non-blind you are, but boy, you are the blindest person I know. You're tripping over the stairs of life because you can't see there are stairs at all.

Now, why don't you actually address my other question. Don't address anything in this post besides this sentence and the one before it.

[Monkeydog]

[Jody]

Haha, awesome.

[Resonator]

There's something about you, 22, that I can't seem to stand. Is it...arrogance? This is probably why nobody likes you. Do you actually have any real friends? If so, bring 'em here. I want to see what they think of you, or if they still actually are your friends.

They would not understand and would be confused. They are my friends, and I have many, but just to be clear it is not imperative in relation to this topic. First you ask me if I have any friends, then you continue to tell me I make wild and ridiculous insinuations about you.

Meanwhile, the anointed one cries for you because he wishes you would share love in yourself rather than malevolence. It does not matter WHAT you speak, religion or anti-religion, as long as it's completely, 100%, bonafide love talking. You can say all you want about me and myself, but I choose to be a herder of sheep, so to speak. I take care of my bretheren, for while I call myself a shepherd I am still one of the sheep among the herd.

Is my taunt to ridiculous for you to actually do something about it?

Not ridiculous enough for me not to do this:

You will not speak of your true intentions so it is irrelevant for me to answer any plea for help when you lie to everyone around you continuously. Your misdeeds shall make your truest allies suffer in the future, and it is all you should do to thank them for their forgiveness in every aspect. Nothing can change what has been done and you know this as well as the other brothers in your clan, but consider what will become of you in the long run. Cherish the life you have been given, it is all your God wants from any of you here on Earth. His light will spark a new wave of redemption for humankind. Amen.

Consider that and you will find light.

[Stars]

My god, it's just one faulty step after another.

Before you can convince anyone that you 1) have friends and 2) you actually speak shit that is true, you need a little something called evidence. Mind you, I am not a gullible sonnovabitch you are (hahaha, you actually believed I studied BLACK MAGIC and could summon METEOR. and that i was a member of the illuminati, seriously. SERIOUSLY. you make ridiculous assumptions), so you'll actually have to be actually be CONVINCING. Bring me ROCK HARD SOLID EVIDENCE that is SUPPORTED BY SCIENTIFIC DATA AND RESULTS and has a LARGE NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS with REAL ARGUMENTS...and then I might, I just might, find a modicum of respect for you and your religion.

Now, before you come back here making more ridiculous claims (like the claim that you have friends), try to do what I have asked above--find real, rock hard evidence BESIDES the bible. Yes, besides any holy book. Evidence that is not biased in any way by religious followers. Evidence that has no bias. Evidence that isn't bullshit like "This tree proves God's existence." Because that tree doesn't. That tree proves the existence of that tree. This kind of reasoning is like saying, "My penis is evidence of my kitten's homosexuality." It is non sequitur. It doesn't follow.

You, sir, are a logical fallacy. Until you can come up with a real argument, don't come back here ever again. And if you do, if you come back here spewing your utter bullshit, I will contact the local Illuminati agency to dispatch you.

[Stars]

by the way i love life

i love typing in this reply box

i love messing around with your gullible mind

i love y...yummy cookies

i also happen to love kicking your ass around. therefore, everything i type is a message of true, bonafide, 100% love. you just interpret it as anger because you, sir, are angry

i also love being an arrogant snob (not really) but it's funny to see your reaction

[Amethyst]

Boom de yada, boom de yada.

Evidence that has no bias.

By the way, that's not technically possible.

[Stars]

well i meant religious bias

like

"THIS PLACE IS FLOODED it means noah's ark flooding theoretically could have happend but it most likely happened because the bible said that"

i'm tired i'm not making snese sometimes

[Stars]

yeah when i said evidence earlier i meant VIABLE EVIDENCE.

sorry for double posting.

[Resonator]

You know what the problem is with logic? Is that everyone can come to the logical conclusion that by pure logic you can prove anything. So to play on your side of the fence here I'll prove my religion (Which is not Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Buddhist) in one fell swoop.

You have to see it to believe it. In a scientific debate, you MUST see or must BE ABLE to see the proof of any claim to know it is true. That's how the average normal person (Such as me and you) continue to know this as fact. Because it has been recorded as being seen, we can put trust in that.

But WHOA. All of a sudden that doesn't APPLY anymore! Not when it comes to talking to God, at least. Fuck that God guy, hell I don't even know why I'm saying it but DAMN it feels glorifying in it's own right to say it! Yeah, that God fucker and everything to do with him is exempt from any form of proof because I chose not to try and find him. Oh wait, it was because I was AFRAID of being BETRAYED by something I didn't know for sure to exist BECAUSE I DIDN'T TRY but I didn't TRY because I was AFRAID of being BETRAYED and OH HOW IT GOES ON FUCK HIM TO HELL FOR IT!

It's a loop of anguish you put on yourself for nothing. I can show you proof of God but you MUST see it for your own eyes and be prepared and not a coward to face him or be with him.

[Stars]

um where's the evidence though?

all of that was basically you saying "FUCK FUCK FUCK" and then saying "YOU HAVE TO WANT TO SEE IT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT."

well i want to see evidence and i somehow can't still fucking see where your evidence is, or if it exists.

so?

i want to see it. show me show me SHOW ME YOUR EVIDENCE. you think i'm a coward? so what if i am. as the saying goes, "be bold. but if things look grim, run away and be bold another day." maybe i run away from fights with big giant robots who are five times my size. maybe so. perhaps...perhaps that makes me a coward.

but i'm not afraid of your evidence, because it doesn't look like you have any.

SO BRING ME EVIDENCE I'M READY I'M NOT SCARED I WON'T RUN AWAY.

[Resonator]

First you must repent. I know people say "AH REPENTANCE WTF DO I NEED THAT SHIT" but it's not about the sins you repent for. It is the ultimate mark that you are not ashamed of what you have done, and you are willing to let it be judged by something you cannot know exists. It's such a brute display of will and free thought that it will bring you to a different level of feeling, and you will ultimately FEEL better about yourself and what you do.

Secondly, now that you're on the path you will begin to experience negative will heading in your direction. It will be small, stupid things and thoughts in the beginning but you will see upon reflection how silly these thoughts must be. Now that you have no shame in what you do, you should ask God for his gift to you. For me personally, I asked for a gift, and he gave me no fear in the face of darkness. You can ask him for the same, but simply "God, I need the gift you have waiting for me, I am ready to receive it," works. As you do this, you will feel such a radiance pass through you, and you will feel his touch upon your forehead to give you confidence that he is there.

Thirdly, you must begin your work. I'm not saying abandon your lifestyle or what you do for a living, but that is always up to you if you don't feel comfortable, or co-workers screw you over, etc. Such is the normal way of going about things. But sit at your computer, after those two steps have been done, and put into your mind "Ok, now I'm looking for what God wants to be typed out, and it'll be me typing what I hear in my head,". So now type for yourself, word by word (No need to rush, you will feel comfortable later), and slowly but surely you will write out something you think is God's will in written form. If I were to give a piece of advice, do NOT second guess yourself. You will know what was to be written as you go along

So now you have the method to turn your body into a tool to see and speak to the immaterial. This takes dedication, and can be done in one night before an icon, even if it's just something you drew on paper. The icon itself means nothing, as it is a simple sign of respect for those you are talking to.

In closing, I give you a task to prove it to yourself; Write something for me to hear, and I will hear it

Good luck

[Stars]

Okay, I've done everything you asked me to.

..."You are full of fecal matter."

Woah, woah, woah. I do not remember...I do not remember typing that. This...THIS MUST BE THE EVIDENCE. WOW YOU HAVE CONVERTED ME now go away forever and never come back ever again.

[Stars]

Actually I was joking, I'm hoping you'll stay here forever and ever. :)

[Silvercrow]

Can't say I understand topics like this in the least. If there's one thing we can prove, it's that it's impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God.

Personally an Atheist, but I know how logic works, saying flat out that THERE IS NO GOD makes no sense, no more than saying OHAY GOD EXISTS.

People srsly need to realize that arguing over stuff like this wastes more people's time than say, the internet.

And the whole "lol morals" thing doesn't really work either, I don't find the morals of people generally based on their religion, in a society with religious freedom it seems like it goes the other way around for the most part.

[Stars]

yeah basically this topic is me being pissed off at resonator

[Anthony Totinos]

A little off topic, well not really... yeah kind. But, why do some faithful people insist on God and science to be separate? That makes no sense. To me, if viewed from a religious stand point, God and science should be tied. Seeing as how God is the creater of the world, and science comes from observations from the world, reflections of God should be found in our science and not hidden in shadows. On the opposite end, why do some scientific minds feel the need to distance themselves from the possibility of a God? Viewed from a scientific point, everything eventually started as a hydrogen atom (this is not taking into account the first view minutes of the universe and the possibility of other universes and what not, but I don't feel those should have much of an affect on this argument anyway) and through fusion, heavier atoms were formed, then compounds and eventually life, which is fine and logical, but it disagrees with some interpretations of the bible. However, seeing as how God, being the omnipotent and omnipowerful creature that he is, decided that he didn't need to baby sit the Universe through it's growth, but rather gave it a good start. A proper arrangement of electrons, neutrons, protons, quarks, strings, or whatever you prefer, to ensure that things will fall into place.

What I'm really trying to say is, I think it's absurd to accept one but deny the other.

[Stars]

Have you been to the Creation Museum recently, by any chance?